Comments on: Smart Grid Security Risks – Not So Smart Electricity Meters http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/07/smart-grid-security-risks-not-so-smart-electricity-meters/ Ethical Hacking, Penetration Testing & Computer Security Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:04:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alan http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/07/smart-grid-security-risks-not-so-smart-electricity-meters/#comment-158339 Alan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:29:40 +0000 http://www.darknet.org.uk/?p=1909#comment-158339 @Dan. It's good to see there is a decent plan behind what is essentially a pretty good idea. Thanks for the heads up and detailed information. The original article from the register was posted on the 12th of June so it's a little outdated and prior to the release of the Road map link you posted, nonetheless it points out the fact that the vendor products which were tested are shocking to say the least. Hopefully those products don't see the light of day as they need a bus load of improvements. @Dan. It’s good to see there is a decent plan behind what is essentially a pretty good idea. Thanks for the heads up and detailed information.

The original article from the register was posted on the 12th of June so it’s a little outdated and prior to the release of the Road map link you posted, nonetheless it points out the fact that the vendor products which were tested are shocking to say the least.

Hopefully those products don’t see the light of day as they need a bus load of improvements.

]]> By: Alan http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/07/smart-grid-security-risks-not-so-smart-electricity-meters/#comment-158338 Alan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:27:47 +0000 http://www.darknet.org.uk/?p=1909#comment-158338 @JibbaJabber. This is of course true, except with a dumb grid you have to be physically near your target location and not half way around the country :P No physical danger either and I wouldn't be surprised if there is very little logging or it'd be easy to wipe one's tracks. @JibbaJabber. This is of course true, except with a dumb grid you have to be physically near your target location and not half way around the country :P No physical danger either and I wouldn’t be surprised if there is very little logging or it’d be easy to wipe one’s tracks.

]]> By: Dan Philpott http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/07/smart-grid-security-risks-not-so-smart-electricity-meters/#comment-158336 Dan Philpott Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:23:15 +0000 http://www.darknet.org.uk/?p=1909#comment-158336 The Smart Grid specs are still being worked out so inferring from security problems with smart devices used now that the Smart Grid will have poor security is not entirely accurate. From what I can see there is encryption but where and how it is used depends on what part of the Smart Grid you are talking about. If you are motivated the information on the Smart Grid specs development is publicly available. To see the conversations made about Security during the first Smart Grid workshop (Interim Roadmap Workshop 1) you can have a look Track C: Security here: http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-sggrid/bin/view/_SmartGridInterimRoadmap/WorkshopITrackC The Report to NIST on the Smart Grid Interoperability Standards Roadmap is in it's comment phase so if you have constructive criticisms and comments you may want to comment. It is available here: http://www.nist.gov/smartgrid/InterimSmartGridRoadmapNISTRestructure.pdf The Smart Grid specs are still being worked out so inferring from security problems with smart devices used now that the Smart Grid will have poor security is not entirely accurate. From what I can see there is encryption but where and how it is used depends on what part of the Smart Grid you are talking about.

If you are motivated the information on the Smart Grid specs development is publicly available. To see the conversations made about Security during the first Smart Grid workshop (Interim Roadmap Workshop 1) you can have a look Track C: Security here:

http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-sggrid/bin/view/_SmartGridInterimRoadmap/WorkshopITrackC

The Report to NIST on the Smart Grid Interoperability Standards Roadmap is in it’s comment phase so if you have constructive criticisms and comments you may want to comment. It is available here:

http://www.nist.gov/smartgrid/InterimSmartGridRoadmapNISTRestructure.pdf

]]> By: JibbaJabber http://www.darknet.org.uk/2009/07/smart-grid-security-risks-not-so-smart-electricity-meters/#comment-158333 JibbaJabber Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:21:17 +0000 http://www.darknet.org.uk/?p=1909#comment-158333 Of course, to screw with the dumb grid, all you need is a pair of boltcutters and flip a switch. :) Of course, to screw with the dumb grid, all you need is a pair of boltcutters and flip a switch. :)

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