I understand fully what I am talking about. The issue I have is with your statement that he ‘intended no harm’ – I now take issue with your statement ‘Nothing he did could have possibly caused harm’

He intended harm. He intended to mess around with the air conditioning of a hospital. Messing around with control systems such as these would have a negative impact such as operations being cancelled which could have the consequence of loss of life.
If he never intended to go ahead with the stunt, he has still changed the operating platform by installing his software which could have unknown, unforseen consequences (trusted computing, anyone?) again, giving the possibility of threatening life.

My points are these. He was in a position of trust which he betrayed. He has not displayed any superior penetration skills, he had physical access to the box. If he intended no harm, he’s a moron as there could be consequences to his actions. If he was committed to carrying out his actions, he could potentially be threatening life directly, therefore he’s at best, a moron.

As for the personal insults, water off a ducks back.

Yeah, I didn’t reply for a while, I’ve been gone… It doesn’t alleviate the fact that you’re an idiot, to the core.

Nothing he did could have possibly caused harm, end, done, nothing more after that, you have no argument… =]
You lose.

You’re saying he SHOULD have harmed people in trying to do this? It’s stupid that he wasn’t trying to harm someone? Maybe you should be in prison…

What exactly was the cause he was trying to publicise apart from his own ego?

I think all of you missed the whole point of the excercise. You fools do not know nearly as much as you think you do.

wHy s0 sEri0uS?

Thanks, 10 minutes of my life I won’t get back.

So, two kiddies on YouTube say ‘He’s a nice guy’ is evidence enough that he meant no harm? If he actually did intend no harm, he should be locked up for stupidity.

Get yourself back to /b/ – You’ll be much more at home there.

I don’t think it’s something he should be in prison/jail for either way… I’m not saying I think he should have done that at his own work place (he especially* should not have done that at his own work place!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl8qUrx3-6k
watch please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXi9AtKv25k
This video is kind of funny toward the end, too… That guy is kind of an idiot. O.O
(lol)

but, whatever… meh… just watch.

That said and done, lets get back to the point. The very fact that he “hacked” a HVAC shows that he had either no knowledge of how important a component it is in any medical institute or had a fair idea of wht he was doing and wanted to show that he was up for the challenge. I have nothing against people who simply hack webpages (by wht methods whatsoever) to spread propoganda eg: http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=syrian+hacker+gnom but the very fact that he did it to a HVAC proves that he’s a complete moron!! More evidence of this comes from his statements like: “You almost can’t help it ya know, It must be done!”.

for somebody who calls himself “Das Licht” which I figure means “The Light”, you seriously need to get out of the darkness!!

I suspect that most people who you have slated on this blog could install a RAT given unhindered physical access to a box, it’s not difficult.

The bottom line is, he was in a position of trust which he broke.

As for not putting life at risk, I would also have do disagree. Whether he went through with the proposed DoS on not, he had introduced some code onto the systems that had not gone through the same (hopefully rigorous) testing that other software components would have gone through. This software could have introduced other vulnerabilities or conflicts that he was not aware of. If the operating theatre was closed down due to a failure of the HVAC, lives could have been put at risk.

Finally, please provide evidence to back up your *guarantee* that we don’t know what we’re talking about.

Just to prove that he could do it when most of the people that say they are ‘1337′ on the internet are mildly retarded and have terrible OCDs where they have to convince every last person in the world that they are cool in all aspects or they will die.

… Anyone can talk shit online… Most of them can’t back it up.

I’ve known about him way before this all happened by the way.

Some of you believe anything you read/hear on the internet or T.V. and it’s rather pathetic that any of you will buy into it as soon as you hear about it without even questioning it- assuming the source you heard it from is just correct no matter what, regardless of how blatant it is.

Will- you’re a raging faggot; no one ‘raised a red flag’ just like it said in the following link (later in this post) he just ’snitched’ on him for things that I could go and look up on youtube or forums that I go to.
I could find things like that, or even worse things than that, in a very short amount of time- seeing that I go to many forums (which are not private or hidden at all) where users post things like this regularly.

I can *guarantee* that none of you know what you’re talking about;
http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/

I bet most of you just saw this on a blog or Google or some friend who saw it somewhere on the internet, etc. and just decided “hey, here’s my chance to hate on someone I don’t even know to pretend I’m 1337.”
Watch some of the videos on there. The people in those videos are actually right.