Had a interesting thought for you to ponder. It’s quite petty but still valid none-the-less.

I am so sick of people that tout their “free” solutions and acting like its the next best thing since sliced bread and everyone else is ignorant for not doing the same.

If you think your “free” solutions are truly free you are sadly mistaken.

Lets visit the reasons why I say this.

1) ALL software take up hard drive space free or not. You pay for your hard drive. thereby this space that this program takes up is paid for. You can’t use this space for anything else BUT the “free” security software.

2) ALL running software takes up CPU cycles and RAM. Both of which you PAY for. Both of which has a defined cap on their limits based on what you BUY. Thereby what ever you do on your PC, all-be-it minimal is still reduced based on the system resources taken up by security software.

3) ALL software downloaded (free or not) takes up bandwidth. Most law biding people PAY for internet access and some have a bandwidth cap per month. So even “free” security solutions take some of this bandwidth that is PAID for.

So yes, while you didn’t “buy” your security solutions. You still paid for them.

But as far as the money aspect that we have WELL covered. I notice you don’t touch the inconvenience aspect that is placed on us all to “secure” ourselves against those who CHOOSE to be criminals (again another way you CAN compare cybor and real life criminals).

And just because one person might not get infected (you) doesn’t make everyone else that gets infected deserving of it, nor ignorant to the steps needed to not be infected.

Also when I state the “time and money wasted” I am not merely meaning your own home PC. There are hidden costs EVERYWHERE due to all criminal activity cybor or real life criminals.

Not to mention the inconveniences put in place to “protect” us.
Heck you don’t even have full access to your entire balance in your bank without getting “permission” or hassled to do so.

One way you CAN compare cybor and real life criminals is the way in which I have. They CHOOSE to commit crimes that impair, inconvenience, and cause harm to LAW BIDING people.

Bottom line, you don’t need to justify criminal behavior (any type) by blanket stereotyping accusing the victims of criminal behavior themselves for becoming a victim. That in itself is very ignorant and condescending.

So yea, this IS my opinion. And if you keep blaming the victim we defiantly won’t come to a common aspect. So I guess we can drop it now. Unless you keep insisting on trying for the last word and telling me to not reply again.

And that’s the idea I’m trying to state, your average user doesn’t care about computer security. That’s (one reason) why you can’t compare cyberspace criminals with ordinary (real life) criminals… Needles to say that most of the time average users get infected/zombiefied (for botnets and stuff like that) do to their ILLEGAL activity; you know, piracy and things of sort… and also due to their love for “FREE” pr0n.

This is my opinion, while you have your own opinion and I think the subject could be left alone because it’s not going to get to a common aspect.

Thats all fine and dandy, but you forget that the idiots (hackers and thieves) choose to do things that are against the general population. Forcing us to spend our money to protect ourselves and people around us. If it wasn’t for them we wouldn’t have to waste so much effort. Also we wouldn’t have people like you sounding like you are trying to justify crimes against person by saying the victim is to blame. I think YOU need to be serious here.

Now before you go on and say I am living in a dreamland filled with emos and little white bunnies. I am merely stating that THEY waste our time and money, they deserve to have everyone turn on them and they also deserve much more than they get when caught…Thats the bottom line, take it or leave it.

Anything else to the contrary justifies the continuation of the vicious cycle that feeds the bottom feeders.

And btw, your reply in a way only furthers my examples in my first post. Think about it a lil, its there.

let’s say a locksmith makes a (very) easy lock, breakable in several seconds. A thief passes by and seizes the lock, he gets in… in more than one case… after which the locksmith plants a reward for every thief in the world… come on, be serious…

it was their fault in the first place…

question out of the blue…..probably a n00b question but are U Dan Kaminsky??

Stupid question I know, but very similar writing styles (and the name!!)

Unethical and MS being responsible for the viruses and worms in the first place? Are you kidding me?

If you leave your front door unlocked and someone comes in and trashes your house, it was THEIR choice to do so. The law recognizes this and does not punish you for leaving it unlocked, nor does society chastise you for it. The idiot that chose to violate someone else’s privacy and property pays accordingly if caught.

I am by no means a fan of MS, but lets be serious here. Virus writers are the unethical scum you need to aim your sights on. THEY chose to go through the unlocked doors. They do not have to do it. They are not required to do it. They are the jerks that force us consumers and coders alike to spend millions if not billions of dollars to protect ourselves.

Honestly I think when they get caught they get off easy. They should be held responsible for the cash spent to try to protect each and every person and business against them.