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	<title>Comments on: AV Firms Split Over Defcon Contest</title>
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		<title>By: arwab</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/04/av-firms-split-over-defcon-contest/#comment-122888</link>
		<dc:creator>arwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea. In much the same way as M$, they know their software has problems, they just don&#039;t want them and possibly more discovered and broadcast for the world to see. 

As a software developer I wouldn&#039;t want a potentially harmful bug to be broadcast but I would at least like to know about it. This could help the AV companies more than it would hurt them.

&quot;If people really want to test the quality of different anti-virus products there are well established ways of doing it...&quot; well these ways are not very effective, time to think outside the box and come up with more creative solutions. A computer virus doesn&#039;t adhere to any rules, why should a quality tester?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea. In much the same way as M$, they know their software has problems, they just don&#8217;t want them and possibly more discovered and broadcast for the world to see. </p>
<p>As a software developer I wouldn&#8217;t want a potentially harmful bug to be broadcast but I would at least like to know about it. This could help the AV companies more than it would hurt them.</p>
<p>&#8220;If people really want to test the quality of different anti-virus products there are well established ways of doing it&#8230;&#8221; well these ways are not very effective, time to think outside the box and come up with more creative solutions. A computer virus doesn&#8217;t adhere to any rules, why should a quality tester?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep Nain</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/04/av-firms-split-over-defcon-contest/#comment-122879</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandeep Nain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is right Yash
AVs are usually good against nothing but already reverse engineered malware... not many AVs have got good protection against polymorphic viruses... and stopping new sophisticated viruses is still a distant story..

and I&#039;m sure contests like this will definitely raise a concern.. and will make the AV vendors work harder..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is right Yash<br />
AVs are usually good against nothing but already reverse engineered malware&#8230; not many AVs have got good protection against polymorphic viruses&#8230; and stopping new sophisticated viruses is still a distant story..</p>
<p>and I&#8217;m sure contests like this will definitely raise a concern.. and will make the AV vendors work harder..</p>
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		<title>By: Yash Kadakia</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/04/av-firms-split-over-defcon-contest/#comment-122865</link>
		<dc:creator>Yash Kadakia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a great initiative and hopefully it should make AV vendors get their act straight and do a decent job for once.

Don&#039;t get me wrong; I think AV softwares are great for general purpose home users but when you think from a security or &quot;hacker&quot; perspective; they do little to nothing against targeted attacks with modified or packed code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a great initiative and hopefully it should make AV vendors get their act straight and do a decent job for once.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I think AV softwares are great for general purpose home users but when you think from a security or &#8220;hacker&#8221; perspective; they do little to nothing against targeted attacks with modified or packed code.</p>
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