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	<title>Comments on: VXers Group 29A Calls it Quits</title>
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		<title>By: Heaven</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-139292</link>
		<dc:creator>Heaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EOF Will Stay Alife :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EOF Will Stay Alife <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Navin</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-123887</link>
		<dc:creator>Navin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here we are, speaking about the possibly the gr8est virus-writers, the guys who can claim tht they did it first, the talented, the ........hey wait, no we&#039;re talking about quasi religious nonsense (as James C puts it).....hey wait, now its about &quot;A Beginner&#039;s Guide to Constructing the Universe&quot; and &quot;The Energy Evolution: Harnessing Free Energy from Nature&quot;...(the first one was a good read BTW haven&#039;t read the 2nd)....hey now its electron orbits and quantum computing..... and now its the EPR paradox and quantum entanglement ( hmm...both related to the uncertainty principle....are we discussing the uncertainty of the VXers coming back??)

wait...I see the light!! The highway sign reads eM3rC......I need to turn right now!!...oh wait we&#039;re back speaking absolutely unrelated stuff... linking to pages which if read will make me blind ( this one has a pink background for example: http://1010.co.uk/index.html !! sheesh....

and WOW as well...Right from TRANSFORMERS style biological viruses to quantum computing to what not.....but hey  wait a minute... arent we spozed to be talking abt the guys at 29a.net??
Just asking.....Ignore this if U want to read abt quantum computing

I just felt tht it&#039;s for these guys tht this post was made:
The retirement letter from 29a.net:
&quot;I tried to contact ValleZ for some time in order to take a decission together about the future of 29A with no luck therefore I decided to take the decission alone. And my decission is that 29A goes officially retired. I feel this is fair because I am kinda the alpha and the omega of the group. 29A was born in Dark Node, my BBS, and I am the last active member of the group. My last words as 29A member are for all the people that worked hard to make of this group the best one: 

Thank you very much! Regards, VirusBuster/29A&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here we are, speaking about the possibly the gr8est virus-writers, the guys who can claim tht they did it first, the talented, the &#8230;&#8230;..hey wait, no we&#8217;re talking about quasi religious nonsense (as James C puts it)&#8230;..hey wait, now its about &#8220;A Beginner&#8217;s Guide to Constructing the Universe&#8221; and &#8220;The Energy Evolution: Harnessing Free Energy from Nature&#8221;&#8230;(the first one was a good read BTW haven&#8217;t read the 2nd)&#8230;.hey now its electron orbits and quantum computing&#8230;.. and now its the EPR paradox and quantum entanglement ( hmm&#8230;both related to the uncertainty principle&#8230;.are we discussing the uncertainty of the VXers coming back??)</p>
<p>wait&#8230;I see the light!! The highway sign reads eM3rC&#8230;&#8230;I need to turn right now!!&#8230;oh wait we&#8217;re back speaking absolutely unrelated stuff&#8230; linking to pages which if read will make me blind ( this one has a pink background for example: <a href="http://1010.co.uk/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://1010.co.uk/index.html</a> !! sheesh&#8230;.</p>
<p>and WOW as well&#8230;Right from TRANSFORMERS style biological viruses to quantum computing to what not&#8230;..but hey  wait a minute&#8230; arent we spozed to be talking abt the guys at 29a.net??<br />
Just asking&#8230;..Ignore this if U want to read abt quantum computing</p>
<p>I just felt tht it&#8217;s for these guys tht this post was made:<br />
The retirement letter from 29a.net:<br />
&#8220;I tried to contact ValleZ for some time in order to take a decission together about the future of 29A with no luck therefore I decided to take the decission alone. And my decission is that 29A goes officially retired. I feel this is fair because I am kinda the alpha and the omega of the group. 29A was born in Dark Node, my BBS, and I am the last active member of the group. My last words as 29A member are for all the people that worked hard to make of this group the best one: </p>
<p>Thank you very much! Regards, VirusBuster/29A&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James C</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-119617</link>
		<dc:creator>James C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cpj  
Thanks for the info, thats exactly what i was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cpj<br />
Thanks for the info, thats exactly what i was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: zupakomputer</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-119610</link>
		<dc:creator>zupakomputer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for the link.

Hopefully yeah experimenting non-maliciously with viruses; after all they can be used to run and deliver useful things, which while possibly illegal are not damaging or abusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the link.</p>
<p>Hopefully yeah experimenting non-maliciously with viruses; after all they can be used to run and deliver useful things, which while possibly illegal are not damaging or abusive.</p>
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		<title>By: cpj</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-119409</link>
		<dc:creator>cpj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys, i saw the posts back and forth on viruses, and just wanted to send out a few comments:

@zupakomputer
There is a good reference on retroviruses called Retroviruses by Cold Spring Harbor Lab press. Within is a discussion of the origins and relationships between various retroviruses. It might be interesting for you.

@James C
There are several journals for immune diseases. Journal of Immunology is a good one, but it&#039;s mainly for researchers. As I work with HIV-1 and other retroviruses, I look at the Journal of Virology, the leading virology journal as well as others--Retrovirology, Virology, Journal of Molecular Biology, and others.

@eM3rC
I find it hard to believe the general idea that virus groups are a thing of the past because profit has been introduced into the mix. I think they may become more of a local thing with bright kids getting together and &quot;experimenting&quot;, hopefully doing so in a non-malicious way but more than likely infecting their high school or even elementary school computers / ipods / devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, i saw the posts back and forth on viruses, and just wanted to send out a few comments:</p>
<p>@zupakomputer<br />
There is a good reference on retroviruses called Retroviruses by Cold Spring Harbor Lab press. Within is a discussion of the origins and relationships between various retroviruses. It might be interesting for you.</p>
<p>@James C<br />
There are several journals for immune diseases. Journal of Immunology is a good one, but it&#8217;s mainly for researchers. As I work with HIV-1 and other retroviruses, I look at the Journal of Virology, the leading virology journal as well as others&#8211;Retrovirology, Virology, Journal of Molecular Biology, and others.</p>
<p>@eM3rC<br />
I find it hard to believe the general idea that virus groups are a thing of the past because profit has been introduced into the mix. I think they may become more of a local thing with bright kids getting together and &#8220;experimenting&#8221;, hopefully doing so in a non-malicious way but more than likely infecting their high school or even elementary school computers / ipods / devices.</p>
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		<title>By: zupakomputer</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-119377</link>
		<dc:creator>zupakomputer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must digress further!:

why are we working for our own obsolescence:

http://ellipsetours.free.fr/wikiblog/wakka.php?wiki=Blog-20070904111938-Projets

something:

http://scrying.org/doku.php?id=pm:peenemunde2008description

where I found something:

http://1010.co.uk/index.html

spectral ecology:

http://www.rixc.lv/07/en/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must digress further!:</p>
<p>why are we working for our own obsolescence:</p>
<p><a href="http://ellipsetours.free.fr/wikiblog/wakka.php?wiki=Blog-20070904111938-Projets" rel="nofollow">http://ellipsetours.free.fr/wikiblog/wakka.php?wiki=Blog-20070904111938-Projets</a></p>
<p>something:</p>
<p><a href="http://scrying.org/doku.php?id=pm:peenemunde2008description" rel="nofollow">http://scrying.org/doku.php?id=pm:peenemunde2008description</a></p>
<p>where I found something:</p>
<p><a href="http://1010.co.uk/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://1010.co.uk/index.html</a></p>
<p>spectral ecology:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rixc.lv/07/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rixc.lv/07/en/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eM3rC</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-118048</link>
		<dc:creator>eM3rC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic has gone off on an amazing digression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic has gone off on an amazing digression.</p>
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		<title>By: zupakomputer</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-118012</link>
		<dc:creator>zupakomputer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the one!,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox#Measurements_on_an_entangled_state</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the one!,</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox#Measurements_on_an_entangled_state" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox#Measurements_on_an_entangled_state</a></p>
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		<title>By: James C</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-118004</link>
		<dc:creator>James C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pantagruel 
Much appreciated. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pantagruel<br />
Much appreciated. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2008/03/vxers-group-29a-calls-it-quits/#comment-117997</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James C

Go to pubmed.com,  type in your search criteria and hopefully get some hits. Unfortunately the bulk of journals will only allow you to see an abstract. Depending on your whereabouts you could scour the web pages of universities, the more well known groups will hav som einfo up on their page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James C</p>
<p>Go to pubmed.com,  type in your search criteria and hopefully get some hits. Unfortunately the bulk of journals will only allow you to see an abstract. Depending on your whereabouts you could scour the web pages of universities, the more well known groups will hav som einfo up on their page.</p>
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