Comments on: German Police Creating Law Enforcement Trojan

By: fever

fever — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:00:40 +0000

just what the world needs, legal trojans. the germans should try to build an anti-trojan device instead.

By: Pantagruel

Pantagruel — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:03:12 +0000

A german court has ruled against the use of a ‘law enforcement trojan’ under normal circumstances.

German federal judges have declared it illegal for government snoops to use virus software to gather data from an individual’s hard drive — except for in extreme cases such as a terrorist threat. The loophole could open the way for a national law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,538094,00.html

The only thing they now have to do is drop some illegal stuff to provide evidence proving extreme threat(s)/

By: eM3rC

eM3rC — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:35:05 +0000

@Pantagruel
I think will be the biggest botnet in the history of computer hacking. Imagine all the information that will be jeopardized… And I would be willing to bet a large sum of money someone is going to find a way to crack it and very quickly.

@J. Lion
I think a happy medium would be the best approach to watching the government. Maybe like an elite group of people (8+).

By: J. Lion

J. Lion — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:10:28 +0000

@Pantagruel
Can you imagine if that botnet becomes for sale?

@eM3rC
“large numbers of regulators” as in too many heads can cripple the project as well.

By: Pantagruel

Pantagruel — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:41:14 +0000

Any sane computer criminal will now start looking for weak spots in the German trojan. He/She who finds the first exploit will 0wn a veruy large botnet

By: zupakomputer

zupakomputer — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:51:41 +0000

re: what was writ about travellers having the spyware installed on their machines – so all any crime syndicate needs to do to aquire the code / programs being used is to also travel there with a laptop or similar, and perhaps look vaguely suspicious, and then the govt. will obligingly install for them the next tool put to major use to hostiley crack / monitor SSL and Skype, and monitor all actions on a trojan infected (I suppose we’re meant to use the term ‘inoculated’ here) machine.

How can such tools fail to be used by the very folks the govt. claims to be writing them to catch.

By: eM3rC

eM3rC — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:31:14 +0000

@Pantagruel
“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind”

@J. Lion
All forms of power must have a head. Question is who will have that power and how much of it will they have.

I think keeping large numbers of regulators will allow a more democratic and hopefully safer form of security.

By: J. Lion

J. Lion — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:06:39 +0000

Then it will be a question of who will be snitch?

Then again they’ll probably cover each other and make sure they get away with anything.

With power … comes “responsibility” or was that corruption?

By: Pantagruel

Pantagruel — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:23:02 +0000

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal btw) “Who shall watch the watchers themselves?

I think there will be a big chance of the watcher being on the receiving end of a trojan themselves (an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth)

By: eM3rC

eM3rC — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:21:04 +0000

@J. Lion
I dont think anyone will. It will be an electronic dictatorship.