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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Plugs 11 Serious Flaws in December Update</title>
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	<description>Ethical Hacking, Penetration Testing &#38; Computer Security</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eM3rC</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-94019</link>
		<dc:creator>eM3rC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say mozilla firefox is the most secure and easy to use browsers out there. It is both secure and very easy to use (plus it has very few flaws).

@ issacisback and Sir Henry

Linux needs to get to an out of the box stage like mac or windows, then it will really catch on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say mozilla firefox is the most secure and easy to use browsers out there. It is both secure and very easy to use (plus it has very few flaws).</p>
<p>@ issacisback and Sir Henry</p>
<p>Linux needs to get to an out of the box stage like mac or windows, then it will really catch on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody_Holme</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-84415</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody_Holme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fak3r

hey, I dl first then scan... i'm just not too stupid in what i dl. *never had a virus* (bar the trojan that didnt execute for over a year in the no-cd exe i had for rome:total war, and that was the ONE time i trusted someone else to get one of those for me... and it walked straight into AVG when it tried to run)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fak3r</p>
<p>hey, I dl first then scan&#8230; i&#8217;m just not too stupid in what i dl. *never had a virus* (bar the trojan that didnt execute for over a year in the no-cd exe i had for rome:total war, and that was the ONE time i trusted someone else to get one of those for me&#8230; and it walked straight into AVG when it tried to run)</p>
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		<title>By: isaacisback</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-84346</link>
		<dc:creator>isaacisback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote: I could not agree more. Let’s linuxize the world!

isaacisback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quote: I could not agree more. Let’s linuxize the world!</p>
<p>isaacisback</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83563</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fak3r:

I could not agree more.  Let's linuxize the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fak3r:</p>
<p>I could not agree more.  Let&#8217;s linuxize the world!</p>
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		<title>By: fak3r</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83561</link>
		<dc:creator>fak3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No tool is ever going to be good enough to protect dumb users, IE, FF, Opera, who cares, they're all taking in info from outside, an overzealous click can bring a user all sorts of pain.  Best bet for these folks is Linux - again, it's too not perfect, but far better for people that dnld first, virus scan later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No tool is ever going to be good enough to protect dumb users, IE, FF, Opera, who cares, they&#8217;re all taking in info from outside, an overzealous click can bring a user all sorts of pain.  Best bet for these folks is Linux - again, it&#8217;s too not perfect, but far better for people that dnld first, virus scan later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have done that in the past, but my never ending pursuit is in finding a browser that will handle all pages.  What I find deplorable is that there are still sites out there that require you to user IE.  My current place of employment is one such place and it sickens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have done that in the past, but my never ending pursuit is in finding a browser that will handle all pages.  What I find deplorable is that there are still sites out there that require you to user IE.  My current place of employment is one such place and it sickens me.</p>
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		<title>By: cpj</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83557</link>
		<dc:creator>cpj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera does not open some pages, yes, but for those few times when I cannot open a page and I absolutely must do so, I can use a different browser. Two browsers is not that crazy. Use one for most things and something like IE for one or two websites that you deem to be safe but necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera does not open some pages, yes, but for those few times when I cannot open a page and I absolutely must do so, I can use a different browser. Two browsers is not that crazy. Use one for most things and something like IE for one or two websites that you deem to be safe but necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83524</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme:

Didn't see your last comment for some reason, but, I agree, the OS is only as secure as that which you use on it from an application perspective.  I once had MS Office on there, but dropped it from lack of need.  I was on Leopard, but just went back to Tiger after getting the nefarious Airport kernel panic oft experienced in the wild, thus back to a limited number of applications and taking a particularly close look at which I install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme:</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t see your last comment for some reason, but, I agree, the OS is only as secure as that which you use on it from an application perspective.  I once had MS Office on there, but dropped it from lack of need.  I was on Leopard, but just went back to Tiger after getting the nefarious Airport kernel panic oft experienced in the wild, thus back to a limited number of applications and taking a particularly close look at which I install.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83517</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme:

Yeah, I just do not feel comfortable using another browser.  Given, FF is a complete memory hog on Ubuntu 7.10, but I feel that there is no other viable alternative browser out there.  Opera, sure, but there are so many things that do not inherently work with it that I find there truly is no other viable alternative to FF at the given time.  Then again, apart from the memory issues, I do not see why I should try to find an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme:</p>
<p>Yeah, I just do not feel comfortable using another browser.  Given, FF is a complete memory hog on Ubuntu 7.10, but I feel that there is no other viable alternative browser out there.  Opera, sure, but there are so many things that do not inherently work with it that I find there truly is no other viable alternative to FF at the given time.  Then again, apart from the memory issues, I do not see why I should try to find an alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/comment-page-1/#comment-83516</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sir Henry

Using FF in OS X will give you all the nice plugins,etc, but also the same bugs and vuln's the FF linux and Windows version are prone to. 
I hope you are not using MS Office on the Apple ;)
Security isn't just the OS, but also the applications one uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sir Henry</p>
<p>Using FF in OS X will give you all the nice plugins,etc, but also the same bugs and vuln&#8217;s the FF linux and Windows version are prone to.<br />
I hope you are not using MS Office on the Apple <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Security isn&#8217;t just the OS, but also the applications one uses.</p>
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