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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Plugs 11 Serious Flaws in December Update</title>
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		<title>By: Mark RAtliff</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-125355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark RAtliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This update single handedly corrupted my Vista OS.
In no particular order, I can no longer:
Use IE7  - It will not load
Install IE8  - it fails religously
Do a system restore more than 1 day back
Print from any Microsoft Office suite product
Uninstall the updates from December
Repair without re-format.
Use any Apps that require internet access even if I change the default to firefox.

I have spent 2 days on the phone with 5 different people at Microsoft....even supervisors.  They actually admitted that they are responsible.  My Vista CD is the OEM CD provided by Toshiba.  It cannot repair without reformatting.  MS told me I can borrow a Vista CD from a friend and use that for repair but most of my friends were too smart to have XP in the first place....and the ones that do have Vista warned me to ignore this &quot;critical&quot; update.  

MS makes no effort to help with this issue any further telling me that only purchasing a new Vista will be my only recourse short of Formatting.  

I love living in a world where someone like MS can mess up a $2000 machine and then tell you to give them $140 to fix it.  I like to think that all the old AV companies that would serve you junk and then tried to charge you to remove it were gone.  Shows what I know.  They just went mainstream with it.

Way to get the world behind you MS.  No wonder Apple people are so loyal.  Contact me if you would like for details but do not download these updates.  You will be sorry...like I am now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This update single handedly corrupted my Vista OS.<br />
In no particular order, I can no longer:<br />
Use IE7  &#8211; It will not load<br />
Install IE8  &#8211; it fails religously<br />
Do a system restore more than 1 day back<br />
Print from any Microsoft Office suite product<br />
Uninstall the updates from December<br />
Repair without re-format.<br />
Use any Apps that require internet access even if I change the default to firefox.</p>
<p>I have spent 2 days on the phone with 5 different people at Microsoft&#8230;.even supervisors.  They actually admitted that they are responsible.  My Vista CD is the OEM CD provided by Toshiba.  It cannot repair without reformatting.  MS told me I can borrow a Vista CD from a friend and use that for repair but most of my friends were too smart to have XP in the first place&#8230;.and the ones that do have Vista warned me to ignore this &#8220;critical&#8221; update.  </p>
<p>MS makes no effort to help with this issue any further telling me that only purchasing a new Vista will be my only recourse short of Formatting.  </p>
<p>I love living in a world where someone like MS can mess up a $2000 machine and then tell you to give them $140 to fix it.  I like to think that all the old AV companies that would serve you junk and then tried to charge you to remove it were gone.  Shows what I know.  They just went mainstream with it.</p>
<p>Way to get the world behind you MS.  No wonder Apple people are so loyal.  Contact me if you would like for details but do not download these updates.  You will be sorry&#8230;like I am now.</p>
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		<title>By: eM3rC</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-94019</link>
		<dc:creator>eM3rC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say mozilla firefox is the most secure and easy to use browsers out there. It is both secure and very easy to use (plus it has very few flaws).

@ issacisback and Sir Henry

Linux needs to get to an out of the box stage like mac or windows, then it will really catch on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say mozilla firefox is the most secure and easy to use browsers out there. It is both secure and very easy to use (plus it has very few flaws).</p>
<p>@ issacisback and Sir Henry</p>
<p>Linux needs to get to an out of the box stage like mac or windows, then it will really catch on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody_Holme</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-84415</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody_Holme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fak3r

hey, I dl first then scan... i&#039;m just not too stupid in what i dl. *never had a virus* (bar the trojan that didnt execute for over a year in the no-cd exe i had for rome:total war, and that was the ONE time i trusted someone else to get one of those for me... and it walked straight into AVG when it tried to run)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fak3r</p>
<p>hey, I dl first then scan&#8230; i&#8217;m just not too stupid in what i dl. *never had a virus* (bar the trojan that didnt execute for over a year in the no-cd exe i had for rome:total war, and that was the ONE time i trusted someone else to get one of those for me&#8230; and it walked straight into AVG when it tried to run)</p>
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		<title>By: isaacisback</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-84346</link>
		<dc:creator>isaacisback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote: I could not agree more. Let’s linuxize the world!

isaacisback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quote: I could not agree more. Let’s linuxize the world!</p>
<p>isaacisback</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-83563</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fak3r:

I could not agree more.  Let&#039;s linuxize the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fak3r:</p>
<p>I could not agree more.  Let&#8217;s linuxize the world!</p>
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		<title>By: fak3r</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-83561</link>
		<dc:creator>fak3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No tool is ever going to be good enough to protect dumb users, IE, FF, Opera, who cares, they&#039;re all taking in info from outside, an overzealous click can bring a user all sorts of pain.  Best bet for these folks is Linux - again, it&#039;s too not perfect, but far better for people that dnld first, virus scan later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No tool is ever going to be good enough to protect dumb users, IE, FF, Opera, who cares, they&#8217;re all taking in info from outside, an overzealous click can bring a user all sorts of pain.  Best bet for these folks is Linux &#8211; again, it&#8217;s too not perfect, but far better for people that dnld first, virus scan later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-83560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have done that in the past, but my never ending pursuit is in finding a browser that will handle all pages.  What I find deplorable is that there are still sites out there that require you to user IE.  My current place of employment is one such place and it sickens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have done that in the past, but my never ending pursuit is in finding a browser that will handle all pages.  What I find deplorable is that there are still sites out there that require you to user IE.  My current place of employment is one such place and it sickens me.</p>
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		<title>By: cpj</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-83557</link>
		<dc:creator>cpj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera does not open some pages, yes, but for those few times when I cannot open a page and I absolutely must do so, I can use a different browser. Two browsers is not that crazy. Use one for most things and something like IE for one or two websites that you deem to be safe but necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera does not open some pages, yes, but for those few times when I cannot open a page and I absolutely must do so, I can use a different browser. Two browsers is not that crazy. Use one for most things and something like IE for one or two websites that you deem to be safe but necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/12/microsoft-plugs-11-serious-flaws-in-december-update/#comment-83524</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme:

Didn&#039;t see your last comment for some reason, but, I agree, the OS is only as secure as that which you use on it from an application perspective.  I once had MS Office on there, but dropped it from lack of need.  I was on Leopard, but just went back to Tiger after getting the nefarious Airport kernel panic oft experienced in the wild, thus back to a limited number of applications and taking a particularly close look at which I install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme:</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t see your last comment for some reason, but, I agree, the OS is only as secure as that which you use on it from an application perspective.  I once had MS Office on there, but dropped it from lack of need.  I was on Leopard, but just went back to Tiger after getting the nefarious Airport kernel panic oft experienced in the wild, thus back to a limited number of applications and taking a particularly close look at which I install.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme:

Yeah, I just do not feel comfortable using another browser.  Given, FF is a complete memory hog on Ubuntu 7.10, but I feel that there is no other viable alternative browser out there.  Opera, sure, but there are so many things that do not inherently work with it that I find there truly is no other viable alternative to FF at the given time.  Then again, apart from the memory issues, I do not see why I should try to find an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme:</p>
<p>Yeah, I just do not feel comfortable using another browser.  Given, FF is a complete memory hog on Ubuntu 7.10, but I feel that there is no other viable alternative browser out there.  Opera, sure, but there are so many things that do not inherently work with it that I find there truly is no other viable alternative to FF at the given time.  Then again, apart from the memory issues, I do not see why I should try to find an alternative.</p>
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