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	<title>Comments on: New German Hacking Law 202(c) &#8211; Sites Close &amp; Possible Backfire</title>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-117504</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James C

So damn true , it&#039;s quite said if you think of it and realise your country is being run by someone who is a high school drop out (and is complaing he should earn more becase it&#039;s a responsible job).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James C</p>
<p>So damn true , it&#8217;s quite said if you think of it and realise your country is being run by someone who is a high school drop out (and is complaing he should earn more becase it&#8217;s a responsible job).</p>
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		<title>By: James C</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-117497</link>
		<dc:creator>James C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is Intelligence or lack there of. 
Intelligent people are to smart to think being a Politician is a good career those, and we’re left with the mental retarded people that think being a politician  is a good idea been a politician.

Moral of the story anyone who want to be a politician should not be politicians.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is Intelligence or lack there of.<br />
Intelligent people are to smart to think being a Politician is a good career those, and we’re left with the mental retarded people that think being a politician  is a good idea been a politician.</p>
<p>Moral of the story anyone who want to be a politician should not be politicians.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-108398</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme

It&#039;s exactly this implementations that is bothering. 
With many of these privacy and surveillance related the bureaucrats seem to go for the &#039;security by obscurity&#039; approach. In the Netherlands there is talk about a big electronic &#039;patient&#039; database, this to reduce possible mix-ups when handing out drugs or performing therapy. They do discuss what is needed for the system to work, but are reluctant to disclose the actual protective measurements. I an kinda worried that is is just as crappy as our &#039;transport card&#039; system (recently a tech student cloned a day pass, it is rumored the German CCC has data on cloning a full blown card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme</p>
<p>It&#8217;s exactly this implementations that is bothering.<br />
With many of these privacy and surveillance related the bureaucrats seem to go for the &#8217;security by obscurity&#8217; approach. In the Netherlands there is talk about a big electronic &#8216;patient&#8217; database, this to reduce possible mix-ups when handing out drugs or performing therapy. They do discuss what is needed for the system to work, but are reluctant to disclose the actual protective measurements. I an kinda worried that is is just as crappy as our &#8216;transport card&#8217; system (recently a tech student cloned a day pass, it is rumored the German CCC has data on cloning a full blown card.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody_Holme</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-107290</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody_Holme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest, i have no problem in losing privacy for security, as long as its implemented well. Like i&#039;d have no problem with security cameras on every single inch outside my house, but theres no way thats financially viable.
anywho. I meant Legally cant, not wont... just means they have to let you go, rather than prosecute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest, i have no problem in losing privacy for security, as long as its implemented well. Like i&#8217;d have no problem with security cameras on every single inch outside my house, but theres no way thats financially viable.<br />
anywho. I meant Legally cant, not wont&#8230; just means they have to let you go, rather than prosecute.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-107070</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nobody_Holme

Scream &#039;terrorist&#039; and the majority of people will rather have one false positive behind lock and key instead of a false negative running about.
It&#039;s worrying me that, even among better educated people, the idea of trading in some privacy for potentially more security is gaining ground. 
Again educations seems to be key to demistifying the FUD that is being spread about to justify the reduction of privacy in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nobody_Holme</p>
<p>Scream &#8216;terrorist&#8217; and the majority of people will rather have one false positive behind lock and key instead of a false negative running about.<br />
It&#8217;s worrying me that, even among better educated people, the idea of trading in some privacy for potentially more security is gaining ground.<br />
Again educations seems to be key to demistifying the FUD that is being spread about to justify the reduction of privacy in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody_Holme</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-106931</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody_Holme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a good point... they may not be legally able to arrest/prosecute on this law if you&#039;re a foreign citizen, due to their own treaties...
Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a good point&#8230; they may not be legally able to arrest/prosecute on this law if you&#8217;re a foreign citizen, due to their own treaties&#8230;<br />
Hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: goodpeople</title>
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		<dc:creator>goodpeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my (dutch) students is from German descent. Although he lives in The Netherlands, he has lots of relatives and friends in Germany. I urge him to leave his laptop at home when he visits his family across the border.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my (dutch) students is from German descent. Although he lives in The Netherlands, he has lots of relatives and friends in Germany. I urge him to leave his laptop at home when he visits his family across the border.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let’s just hope no other countries follow suit with such retarded laws.

The UK has or will be following soon.

This restrictive German law has been in the making for quite some time now, the early signs where prohibition of software enabling people to circumvent copy protection mechanisms (even getting past the really lame protection schemes) making software like Alcohol 120%, etc illegal. I tend to travel to Germany quite oftent, guess I will have to break my Knoppix cd/dvd in two at the border (funny though, the Schengen treaty mentions free travel of people/goods/knowledge/and to some extend money between Schengen countries. This all seems one big contradiction)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s just hope no other countries follow suit with such retarded laws.</p>
<p>The UK has or will be following soon.</p>
<p>This restrictive German law has been in the making for quite some time now, the early signs where prohibition of software enabling people to circumvent copy protection mechanisms (even getting past the really lame protection schemes) making software like Alcohol 120%, etc illegal. I tend to travel to Germany quite oftent, guess I will have to break my Knoppix cd/dvd in two at the border (funny though, the Schengen treaty mentions free travel of people/goods/knowledge/and to some extend money between Schengen countries. This all seems one big contradiction)</p>
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		<title>By: Maiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i live in germany! its true... its been all over the news!
:( it really sucks but they wont reach anything with this! to many websites plus people will find ways to continue doing this...
police should leave us alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i live in germany! its true&#8230; its been all over the news!<br />
 <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  it really sucks but they wont reach anything with this! to many websites plus people will find ways to continue doing this&#8230;<br />
police should leave us alone!</p>
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		<title>By: Yi-Feng Tzeng&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; German hacking law 202(c)</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/10/new-german-hacking-law-202c-sites-close-possible-backfire/#comment-102624</link>
		<dc:creator>Yi-Feng Tzeng&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; German hacking law 202(c)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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