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	<title>Comments on: Russian Elcomsoft Finds Backdoor in Quicken Passwords</title>
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		<title>By: Sandeep Nain</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-63409</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandeep Nain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alfred

I'll take that as compliment... I can probably help out government in implementing new technologies in a better way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alfred</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take that as compliment&#8230; I can probably help out government in implementing new technologies in a better way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Farrington</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62684</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Sandeep is a thinker a company or the government has any use for you ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Sandeep is a thinker a company or the government has any use for you ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep Nain</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62577</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandeep Nain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes… no doubt leaving such backdoor is a way of making money.. but why didnt they come up with a 2 way authentication mechanism.. 

E.g. if a user looses his/her password, quicken consultant may go to the site and uses a smartcard etc to login which only allows to change the password.

i believe this will be a bit better way than leaving a backdoor to login without password. (and quicken will be able earn money too)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes… no doubt leaving such backdoor is a way of making money.. but why didnt they come up with a 2 way authentication mechanism.. </p>
<p>E.g. if a user looses his/her password, quicken consultant may go to the site and uses a smartcard etc to login which only allows to change the password.</p>
<p>i believe this will be a bit better way than leaving a backdoor to login without password. (and quicken will be able earn money too)</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Farrington</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62551</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the other people in the commentary this is a way to make money. You forget your password you have to call support. Guess what? Support = Dollars. To Quicken dollars makes sense. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the other people in the commentary this is a way to make money. You forget your password you have to call support. Guess what? Support = Dollars. To Quicken dollars makes sense. <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Farrington</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62550</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I would like to think that accountants and people running payroll could actually think instead of letting a program think for them. This is what happens when you let a company decide how to "think" for you. You are at their mercy. I am waiting to hear government hacks company to find out true earnings for the company. Put I'm just paranoid :P

I agree with the other people in the commentary this is a way to make money. You forget your password you have to call support. Guess what? Support = Dollars. To Quicken dollars makes sense. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I would like to think that accountants and people running payroll could actually think instead of letting a program think for them. This is what happens when you let a company decide how to &#8220;think&#8221; for you. You are at their mercy. I am waiting to hear government hacks company to find out true earnings for the company. Put I&#8217;m just paranoid <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree with the other people in the commentary this is a way to make money. You forget your password you have to call support. Guess what? Support = Dollars. To Quicken dollars makes sense. <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: CK76</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62492</link>
		<dc:creator>CK76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this sucks. While it may not matter to people in lower tax brackets (me), it sucks for all those small and medium sized businesses whose accounting departments rely on this software to manage payroll, accounts receivable, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this sucks. While it may not matter to people in lower tax brackets (me), it sucks for all those small and medium sized businesses whose accounting departments rely on this software to manage payroll, accounts receivable, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62491</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well based on the fact that ppl will legitamately loose their passwords, this is helpful.  But what about those that will loose this maliciously.  

I guess it maybe too much work to put some type of 2 factor authentication into some applications, in the event that your password is cracked, you make need a file that's physically on the machine to open the file, and it should be a file that you chose as "key file".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well based on the fact that ppl will legitamately loose their passwords, this is helpful.  But what about those that will loose this maliciously.  </p>
<p>I guess it maybe too much work to put some type of 2 factor authentication into some applications, in the event that your password is cracked, you make need a file that&#8217;s physically on the machine to open the file, and it should be a file that you chose as &#8220;key file&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TheRealDonQuixote</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62486</link>
		<dc:creator>TheRealDonQuixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a good thing I don't have any money to keep track of!!  ;)

Coding in a "backdoor" as a precaution for retard customers is always a bad idea.  The whole notion of it is passe, you might as well be watching the movie "Hackers".  Anyway, I prefer to use OpenOffice Spreadsheet and my brain to manage what little cash I got. If I ever really need a program specifically to keep track of my funds then I'll hire an accountant or an accounting firm.

Remember kids, trusting other people's code with your money/accounts/investments is like trusting a politician to tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a good thing I don&#8217;t have any money to keep track of!!  <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Coding in a &#8220;backdoor&#8221; as a precaution for retard customers is always a bad idea.  The whole notion of it is passe, you might as well be watching the movie &#8220;Hackers&#8221;.  Anyway, I prefer to use OpenOffice Spreadsheet and my brain to manage what little cash I got. If I ever really need a program specifically to keep track of my funds then I&#8217;ll hire an accountant or an accounting firm.</p>
<p>Remember kids, trusting other people&#8217;s code with your money/accounts/investments is like trusting a politician to tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Zanith</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62481</link>
		<dc:creator>Zanith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, they probably count on the fact that a certain percentage of their customers will loose their passwords at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, they probably count on the fact that a certain percentage of their customers will loose their passwords at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyanide</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/russian-elcomsoft-finds-backdoor-in-quicken-passwords/#comment-62475</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyanide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh..to tell you the truth I would lean more towards Quicken just wanting to make more money with the recovery of their customers files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh..to tell you the truth I would lean more towards Quicken just wanting to make more money with the recovery of their customers files.</p>
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