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	<title>Comments on: Immunity Debugger v1.0 (immdbg) Release - Download it Now!</title>
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	<description>Ethical Hacking, Penetration Testing &#38; Computer Security</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goober</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-124635</link>
		<dc:creator>goober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhhm bogsheet they licensed ollydbg - might want to pay closer attention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhhm bogsheet they licensed ollydbg - might want to pay closer attention</p>
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		<title>By: bogsheet</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-122715</link>
		<dc:creator>bogsheet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this is a great tool it's only coz it's olly!

so i would say in fact olly is a great tool, and these guys are complete chancers. they have ripped off oleh yushuk's amazing work in creating ollydbg and are passing it off as their own! it certainly looks that way.

let's be honest, they could have just released a python plugin for olly (that's all this is) without reskinning it and making it look like they should be credited with the entire debugger. plus it would be much better and easier for people to just add the plugin to their olly rather than using a second skinned instance of olly instead.

boo - poor form, these guys are losers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this is a great tool it&#8217;s only coz it&#8217;s olly!</p>
<p>so i would say in fact olly is a great tool, and these guys are complete chancers. they have ripped off oleh yushuk&#8217;s amazing work in creating ollydbg and are passing it off as their own! it certainly looks that way.</p>
<p>let&#8217;s be honest, they could have just released a python plugin for olly (that&#8217;s all this is) without reskinning it and making it look like they should be credited with the entire debugger. plus it would be much better and easier for people to just add the plugin to their olly rather than using a second skinned instance of olly instead.</p>
<p>boo - poor form, these guys are losers!</p>
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		<title>By: ROke</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-63447</link>
		<dc:creator>ROke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goood very goood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goood very goood!</p>
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		<title>By: TheRealDonQuixote</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-63421</link>
		<dc:creator>TheRealDonQuixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Malfunction
Actually its good you wrote back.  Better late than never.  I had completely forgot about syser.
Thanks for the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Malfunction<br />
Actually its good you wrote back.  Better late than never.  I had completely forgot about syser.<br />
Thanks for the link!</p>
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		<title>By: malfunction</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-63201</link>
		<dc:creator>malfunction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all sry for my late follow up. at the moment there is not much difference betwenn olly and immunity. olly can be easily extended via plugins. there may be no python plugin but you can get perl scripting for sure :P for the graphing, i far as i can remember the lib from ida pro is freeware. but i've never used this feature in ida, it confuses me more than it helps. concerning the speedup i would say it's mainly markting speech. it only boils down to the scripting capabilities and you can have that in ida (python plug) and olly too. here's the syser link, if you haven't googled it already: http://www.sysersoft.com/download/download.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all sry for my late follow up. at the moment there is not much difference betwenn olly and immunity. olly can be easily extended via plugins. there may be no python plugin but you can get perl scripting for sure <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> for the graphing, i far as i can remember the lib from ida pro is freeware. but i&#8217;ve never used this feature in ida, it confuses me more than it helps. concerning the speedup i would say it&#8217;s mainly markting speech. it only boils down to the scripting capabilities and you can have that in ida (python plug) and olly too. here&#8217;s the syser link, if you haven&#8217;t googled it already: <a href="http://www.sysersoft.com/download/download.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.sysersoft.com/download/download.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: TheRealDonQuixote</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-62895</link>
		<dc:creator>TheRealDonQuixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Malfunction - Nice work there.  Do you think the added python scripting and graphing makes Immunity Debugger any better than ollydbg? What about the claims that exploit time is cut in half?  Also, I have discovered that Immunity debugger doesn't run so well in WINE, actually not at all really.  Still, what do you think about the supposed speed increase?
BTW - Link for syser plz?  I've never used it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Malfunction - Nice work there.  Do you think the added python scripting and graphing makes Immunity Debugger any better than ollydbg? What about the claims that exploit time is cut in half?  Also, I have discovered that Immunity debugger doesn&#8217;t run so well in WINE, actually not at all really.  Still, what do you think about the supposed speed increase?<br />
BTW - Link for syser plz?  I&#8217;ve never used it.</p>
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		<title>By: malfunction</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-62834</link>
		<dc:creator>malfunction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually it's ollydbg. they only licensed the engine and added this python scripting and graphing stuff. see http://www.woodmann.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10343 for further diskussion. and for softice, i think it has had it's time.. to cumbersome to get it working. apart from iceext i know nothing which would keep me from using syser all the time. ida pro, well debugger isn't as nice as the disassmbler but still good enough for a quick trace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually it&#8217;s ollydbg. they only licensed the engine and added this python scripting and graphing stuff. see <a href="http://www.woodmann.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10343" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodmann.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10343</a> for further diskussion. and for softice, i think it has had it&#8217;s time.. to cumbersome to get it working. apart from iceext i know nothing which would keep me from using syser all the time. ida pro, well debugger isn&#8217;t as nice as the disassmbler but still good enough for a quick trace.</p>
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		<title>By: backbone</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/08/immunity-debugger-v10-immdbg-release-download-it-now/#comment-62817</link>
		<dc:creator>backbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great tool... but for guys like me there can be only two debuggers: SoftIce and GDB. Because I am not a exploit developer :þ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great tool&#8230; but for guys like me there can be only two debuggers: SoftIce and GDB. Because I am not a exploit developer :þ</p>
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