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	<title>Comments on: Class President Hacks School Grades</title>
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	<description>Ethical Hacking, Penetration Testing &#38; Computer Security</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wad It Do Baby Boo</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-122799</link>
		<dc:creator>Wad It Do Baby Boo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this kid must be retarded =/ why would he try to change hi grades? tahts pathetic! if your not going to try then why cheat? a lot of people will disagree with me &#60;_&#60; but i dont mind.  im glad he got arrested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this kid must be retarded =/ why would he try to change hi grades? tahts pathetic! if your not going to try then why cheat? a lot of people will disagree with me &lt;_&lt; but i dont mind.  im glad he got arrested.</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116973</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picked up a story today of a somewhat similar 'oeps I left a post-it with the admin pw above my tft'. 
Someone was screaming hell and damnation because his pc and tft where stolen. When asked if the goods had been locked down he siad, sure, tightly to the wall using the provided cable. When asked about the where abouts of the keys to the chain, he replied,' one in my pocket (producing the key) and the other in our key safe (showing key in key safe). When asked if the jey safe was locked that particular evening he went numb and turned pale. It's little use to lockdown as pc+tft if you forget to close the vault containing the backup key to the lock. They where quite lucky that the thieft, apparently, was by himself. Otherwise the would have suffered a total loss of 15 pc's+tft's in their computing room alone.

Ofcourse I expressed my sentiments for his loss, but had a hard time not wetting myself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picked up a story today of a somewhat similar &#8216;oeps I left a post-it with the admin pw above my tft&#8217;.<br />
Someone was screaming hell and damnation because his pc and tft where stolen. When asked if the goods had been locked down he siad, sure, tightly to the wall using the provided cable. When asked about the where abouts of the keys to the chain, he replied,&#8217; one in my pocket (producing the key) and the other in our key safe (showing key in key safe). When asked if the jey safe was locked that particular evening he went numb and turned pale. It&#8217;s little use to lockdown as pc+tft if you forget to close the vault containing the backup key to the lock. They where quite lucky that the thieft, apparently, was by himself. Otherwise the would have suffered a total loss of 15 pc&#8217;s+tft&#8217;s in their computing room alone.</p>
<p>Ofcourse I expressed my sentiments for his loss, but had a hard time not wetting myself <img src='http://www.darknet.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zupakomputer</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116962</link>
		<dc:creator>zupakomputer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm, if you're going to write down your password then don't leave it lying around when you leave the room - &#38; why was the room even unlocked with no-one in it anyway.

Sad truth about grade changing may be that they needn't bother anyway; lots of people lie on their CVs and don't have anything to back it up with, or they have fake paper certificates. Yet another problem of having HR depts, or agencies, handle hiring - remember the days when you'd be hired by people that actually knew the position being applied for inside-out, all it's requirements, and exactly what they were looking for. A few choice interview questions in the subject area and they'd know straight away if you had a clue about what you claimed to know.

As far as altering grades to get into further education - it may well mean that someone more deserving loses a place on that course because of you cheating, but it doesn't make you better at the subjects. Unless you plan on changing the grades at the college or university too.....and then - why bother doing that, when you could just fake a degree if you're that way inclined. You'd be better off spending four years finding out how to add yourself to the database to recieve a degree off them, or just buying a fake one, if you think you can keep a job without knowing f-all about the subjects needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, if you&#8217;re going to write down your password then don&#8217;t leave it lying around when you leave the room - &amp; why was the room even unlocked with no-one in it anyway.</p>
<p>Sad truth about grade changing may be that they needn&#8217;t bother anyway; lots of people lie on their CVs and don&#8217;t have anything to back it up with, or they have fake paper certificates. Yet another problem of having HR depts, or agencies, handle hiring - remember the days when you&#8217;d be hired by people that actually knew the position being applied for inside-out, all it&#8217;s requirements, and exactly what they were looking for. A few choice interview questions in the subject area and they&#8217;d know straight away if you had a clue about what you claimed to know.</p>
<p>As far as altering grades to get into further education - it may well mean that someone more deserving loses a place on that course because of you cheating, but it doesn&#8217;t make you better at the subjects. Unless you plan on changing the grades at the college or university too&#8230;..and then - why bother doing that, when you could just fake a degree if you&#8217;re that way inclined. You&#8217;d be better off spending four years finding out how to add yourself to the database to recieve a degree off them, or just buying a fake one, if you think you can keep a job without knowing f-all about the subjects needed.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Lion</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116932</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CodeMOnkeyt

Keepass would work better than his notepad for password management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CodeMOnkeyt</p>
<p>Keepass would work better than his notepad for password management</p>
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		<title>By: J. Lion</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116928</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... password left on a notepad!

Am not sure if we can call that hacking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; password left on a notepad!</p>
<p>Am not sure if we can call that hacking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zebulon</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116835</link>
		<dc:creator>Zebulon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really shouldn't admit this, but I believe I'm beyond the statute of Limitations here, but when I was in high school 11 yrs ago, me and my friends did this. We were slacker stoners then, so we werent gettin good grades anyway, we were at least smart enough to not just give us sraight A's. But anyway the point of my rant is, my Tech-Ed Teacher made the fatel mistake one day of tellin us all the computers in the whole school were networked together, I mean you could'nt get away with it now there are just too many security measures and Log Files that are self created, you would either have to be extremely stupid or extremely smart just to even try it, it just goes to show you even the good kids are bad !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really shouldn&#8217;t admit this, but I believe I&#8217;m beyond the statute of Limitations here, but when I was in high school 11 yrs ago, me and my friends did this. We were slacker stoners then, so we werent gettin good grades anyway, we were at least smart enough to not just give us sraight A&#8217;s. But anyway the point of my rant is, my Tech-Ed Teacher made the fatel mistake one day of tellin us all the computers in the whole school were networked together, I mean you could&#8217;nt get away with it now there are just too many security measures and Log Files that are self created, you would either have to be extremely stupid or extremely smart just to even try it, it just goes to show you even the good kids are bad !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pantagruel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116783</link>
		<dc:creator>Pantagruel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm should have encrypted the data, but shit happens.

I am not a legal person so can only express my opinion. If you have not received any prior warning about trying to gain illegal access to the network or other computer crime related stuff, I see no need for a teacher to search your personal belongings. Eventhough a teacher may have a bit more legal statue than an ordinary citizin (also depends on the country in question), I think he is still not allowed to violate your privacy. Hope your not in Germany, software relating to cracking/etc is kinda illegal there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm should have encrypted the data, but shit happens.</p>
<p>I am not a legal person so can only express my opinion. If you have not received any prior warning about trying to gain illegal access to the network or other computer crime related stuff, I see no need for a teacher to search your personal belongings. Eventhough a teacher may have a bit more legal statue than an ordinary citizin (also depends on the country in question), I think he is still not allowed to violate your privacy. Hope your not in Germany, software relating to cracking/etc is kinda illegal there.</p>
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		<title>By: GoldenApollo</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-116740</link>
		<dc:creator>GoldenApollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my i.t. techer got my pendrive and it had aircrack and the wep keys of the school network a friend of mine put there (stupid me), i dont even have a wifi capable device or anyhting, just had it cuz my friend has a mobile that works with that and we actually needed it to do some class work (ironic), so 2moro i have a "talk" with the i.t. guy and see wat happens, does anyone know wat the consequences can be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my i.t. techer got my pendrive and it had aircrack and the wep keys of the school network a friend of mine put there (stupid me), i dont even have a wifi capable device or anyhting, just had it cuz my friend has a mobile that works with that and we actually needed it to do some class work (ironic), so 2moro i have a &#8220;talk&#8221; with the i.t. guy and see wat happens, does anyone know wat the consequences can be?</p>
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		<title>By: eM3rC</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-109131</link>
		<dc:creator>eM3rC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When doing stuff like this I think the risks outweigh the result by a vast amount. Say this "hacker" was successfully able to change his grades without the admins presence. What do you think would happen when his teachers noticed his grade/other students grades go up (could compare grade book to online grades), or the grades being updated without the teacher logging in. 

Stuff like this would seem easy to catch and easy to find out who did it based on who's grades were raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When doing stuff like this I think the risks outweigh the result by a vast amount. Say this &#8220;hacker&#8221; was successfully able to change his grades without the admins presence. What do you think would happen when his teachers noticed his grade/other students grades go up (could compare grade book to online grades), or the grades being updated without the teacher logging in. </p>
<p>Stuff like this would seem easy to catch and easy to find out who did it based on who&#8217;s grades were raised.</p>
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		<title>By: matrixhomie</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2007/01/class-president-hacks-school-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-109114</link>
		<dc:creator>matrixhomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should just download Windows Key if its a windows machine (300 $ program for instantly erasing any user accounts password ig. admin )

or use a multiple proxy program like Tor or Proxylist. or even goto Proxy.org if it isnt blocked.

if you dont know how to do anything computer wise, just stand behind people when they log in and write down what they typed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should just download Windows Key if its a windows machine (300 $ program for instantly erasing any user accounts password ig. admin )</p>
<p>or use a multiple proxy program like Tor or Proxylist. or even goto Proxy.org if it isnt blocked.</p>
<p>if you dont know how to do anything computer wise, just stand behind people when they log in and write down what they typed.</p>
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