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	<title>Comments on: Good Password Guidelines &#8211; How to Make a Strong/Secure Password</title>
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		<title>By: Tara (PassPack)</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59187</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara (PassPack)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Torvaun
You&#039;ve got a good memory then - I&#039;d never manage. Just make sure you have a lot of these passwords though. Ideally you should have a different one for every site. But at the very least, make sure that you have unique passwords fro each banking and email account.

Cheers!
Tara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Torvaun<br />
You&#8217;ve got a good memory then &#8211; I&#8217;d never manage. Just make sure you have a lot of these passwords though. Ideally you should have a different one for every site. But at the very least, make sure that you have unique passwords fro each banking and email account.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Tara</p>
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		<title>By: Torvaun</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59128</link>
		<dc:creator>Torvaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tara
Remembering what I used where is the biggest problem I have with this system, but I&#039;m pretty good at remembering the passwords I use most often.  The rest, I just run through all of my passwords until I get the right one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tara<br />
Remembering what I used where is the biggest problem I have with this system, but I&#8217;m pretty good at remembering the passwords I use most often.  The rest, I just run through all of my passwords until I get the right one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara (PassPack)</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59127</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara (PassPack)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Torvaun  
That&#039;s actually a good method. Here&#039;s another good one over at Significant Figures that uses molecules: http://www.sciencetext.com/passwords-for-scientists.html

But still - how do you remember which formula you used on which site? Why not come up with a great master pass for a password manager, and then forget about all the rest.

Just an idea ;)
Tara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Torvaun<br />
That&#8217;s actually a good method. Here&#8217;s another good one over at Significant Figures that uses molecules: <a href="http://www.sciencetext.com/passwords-for-scientists.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencetext.com/passwords-for-scientists.html</a></p>
<p>But still &#8211; how do you remember which formula you used on which site? Why not come up with a great master pass for a password manager, and then forget about all the rest.</p>
<p>Just an idea ;)<br />
Tara</p>
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		<title>By: Torvaun</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59094</link>
		<dc:creator>Torvaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a math geek as well as a computer geek, I tend to use mathematical expressions or constants for passwords.  &#039;e=2.71828&#039; &#039;answer:42&#039;, that kind of thing.  Hard to brute force, easy to remember.  And of course, being a security minded geek, neither of those is used for a password for anything Internet accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a math geek as well as a computer geek, I tend to use mathematical expressions or constants for passwords.  &#8216;e=2.71828&#8242; &#8216;answer:42&#8242;, that kind of thing.  Hard to brute force, easy to remember.  And of course, being a security minded geek, neither of those is used for a password for anything Internet accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara (PassPack)</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59083</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara (PassPack)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent password hacking contest showed that &quot;complexity&quot; actually matters less than length. I just posted about it here:

&lt;a title=&quot;Long is Strong&quot; href=&quot;http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/choosing-passwords-long-is-strong/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Choosing Passwords: Long is Strong&lt;/a&gt;

Jeroen has got the right idea - pass phrases are a best bet.

Cheers,
Tara Kelly
PassPack Founding Partner
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent password hacking contest showed that &#8220;complexity&#8221; actually matters less than length. I just posted about it here:</p>
<p><a title="Long is Strong" href="http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/choosing-passwords-long-is-strong/" rel="nofollow">Choosing Passwords: Long is Strong</a></p>
<p>Jeroen has got the right idea &#8211; pass phrases are a best bet.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Tara Kelly<br />
PassPack Founding Partner<br />
&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-59038</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i usually make a simple hash of the site domain and like ... my phone number with the shift key</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i usually make a simple hash of the site domain and like &#8230; my phone number with the shift key</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo Cicerone</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo Cicerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this passwords generator too:

http://www.digitazero.org/?p=30

for testing and fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this passwords generator too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digitazero.org/?p=30" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitazero.org/?p=30</a></p>
<p>for testing and fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Harlos</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Harlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My preferred method of password generation is to take a sentence or line from a song and then use the first letter of each word in that sentence/line, putting vowels in one case and consonants in another, finally postfixed with numerals that indicate how long that password is &lt;b&gt;including&lt;/b&gt; the numerals, e.g., if the line I wish to use is:

&quot;You and me against the world&quot;

My password would be &quot;YaMaTW7&quot;

The longer the line/sentence, the more difficult to brute-force crack it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My preferred method of password generation is to take a sentence or line from a song and then use the first letter of each word in that sentence/line, putting vowels in one case and consonants in another, finally postfixed with numerals that indicate how long that password is <b>including</b> the numerals, e.g., if the line I wish to use is:</p>
<p>&#8220;You and me against the world&#8221;</p>
<p>My password would be &#8220;YaMaTW7&#8243;</p>
<p>The longer the line/sentence, the more difficult to brute-force crack it.</p>
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		<title>By: Darknet</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/04/good-password-guidelines-how-to-make-a-strongsecure-password/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>Darknet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John Preston:&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for that, Keepass looks pretty neat.

&lt;strong&gt;Ubourgeek:&lt;/strong&gt; Yah that really does make a strong password, it&#039;s good to combine all of the above techniques..end up with something memorable yet very strong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>John Preston:</strong> Thanks for that, Keepass looks pretty neat.</p>
<p><strong>Ubourgeek:</strong> Yah that really does make a strong password, it&#8217;s good to combine all of the above techniques..end up with something memorable yet very strong!</p>
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		<title>By: Ubourgeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubourgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the previously mentioned passphrase technique, hash it using leetspeek (may be lame but it works) &#039;cause I&#039;m a Geek, then toss a &quot;special&quot; character and an extra number on either end.

e.g.

Passphrase: Did you get four hundred thousand computer viruses?

Number of words in passphrase: 8

&quot;Special&quot; Character: ?

Resulting Password: ?dygfh7Cv8 or 8dygfh7Cv?

Cheers,

U.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the previously mentioned passphrase technique, hash it using leetspeek (may be lame but it works) &#8217;cause I&#8217;m a Geek, then toss a &#8220;special&#8221; character and an extra number on either end.</p>
<p>e.g.</p>
<p>Passphrase: Did you get four hundred thousand computer viruses?</p>
<p>Number of words in passphrase: 8</p>
<p>&#8220;Special&#8221; Character: ?</p>
<p>Resulting Password: ?dygfh7Cv8 or 8dygfh7Cv?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>U.</p>
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