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	<title>Comments on: Jacking Wifi is &#8216;OK&#8217; say Ethics Expert</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-125268</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes i do agree that people should take responsibility with there WiFi
most people don&#039;t know  how to make it secure in the first place or they are to lazy to figure it out or the don&#039;t have the time. 

I also agree  once the WiFi signal leaves his/her house i should have the right to connect it. Hey if you do then at least tell them after you are done. But the thing is that&#039;s getting me is if you do tell them  will he/she can arrest you or press charges. 

I think the signal is your once it leaves the house but when you connect to it then its no longer your</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i do agree that people should take responsibility with there WiFi<br />
most people don&#8217;t know  how to make it secure in the first place or they are to lazy to figure it out or the don&#8217;t have the time. </p>
<p>I also agree  once the WiFi signal leaves his/her house i should have the right to connect it. Hey if you do then at least tell them after you are done. But the thing is that&#8217;s getting me is if you do tell them  will he/she can arrest you or press charges. </p>
<p>I think the signal is your once it leaves the house but when you connect to it then its no longer your</p>
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		<title>By: Pavel</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-60380</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I against viewing somebody&#039;s private information. I think everybody should observe simple rules of security. Good review gives famous company Agnitum - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.agnitum.com/news/securityinsight/issues/june2007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WiFi Security Basics&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I against viewing somebody&#8217;s private information. I think everybody should observe simple rules of security. Good review gives famous company Agnitum &#8211; <a href="http://www.agnitum.com/news/securityinsight/issues/june2007" rel="nofollow">WiFi Security Basics</a></p>
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		<title>By: tom miller</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-59275</link>
		<dc:creator>tom miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was using the shared network connection from the people oposite when my network wasn&#039;t working and they didn&#039;t mind.

its should be the owners responsibility to activate the security on their own network otherwise they are open to hackers and other security threats, my rooter only has WEP security on it and no one on my road has tried to get into it but if i had no security then my whole road would be using my connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was using the shared network connection from the people oposite when my network wasn&#8217;t working and they didn&#8217;t mind.</p>
<p>its should be the owners responsibility to activate the security on their own network otherwise they are open to hackers and other security threats, my rooter only has WEP security on it and no one on my road has tried to get into it but if i had no security then my whole road would be using my connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Witchlight</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-59069</link>
		<dc:creator>Witchlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you dont take even the most basic attempts to secure your wi-fi then you are implying consent.  Its not like securing the connection is hard or the techniques obscure.

There are ways for businesses to restrict there wifi from non customers and still share it for patrons.  If a business is too cheap to implement them then they are asking for ppl to ride their wifi.

BTW an open wifi may make a customer out of a non customer or at least have ppl say good things about your business, and word of mouth is the best advertisement you dont pay for. 

Second thought on why this is wrong.

What we have here is some ma and pa coffee shop who heard about the internets and wanted to give &quot;tubes&quot; to their patrons.  Instead of consulting a tech they picked up a crappy router and left it at that.  

If ignorance of the law is no defence then neither is ingnorace of offering a service or technology.

Basically if your gonna do it, do it right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you dont take even the most basic attempts to secure your wi-fi then you are implying consent.  Its not like securing the connection is hard or the techniques obscure.</p>
<p>There are ways for businesses to restrict there wifi from non customers and still share it for patrons.  If a business is too cheap to implement them then they are asking for ppl to ride their wifi.</p>
<p>BTW an open wifi may make a customer out of a non customer or at least have ppl say good things about your business, and word of mouth is the best advertisement you dont pay for. </p>
<p>Second thought on why this is wrong.</p>
<p>What we have here is some ma and pa coffee shop who heard about the internets and wanted to give &#8220;tubes&#8221; to their patrons.  Instead of consulting a tech they picked up a crappy router and left it at that.  </p>
<p>If ignorance of the law is no defence then neither is ingnorace of offering a service or technology.</p>
<p>Basically if your gonna do it, do it right!</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan Man Fined $400 for Using Coffee Shop&#8217;s Wi-Fi Network &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-59002</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan Man Fined $400 for Using Coffee Shop&#8217;s Wi-Fi Network &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this is a harsh turn of events, a while back an &#8216;ethics expert&#8217; said Wifi Jacking is OK, now this poor guy has got pretty harshly screwed for using an open wireless connection from a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D-day</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-24233</link>
		<dc:creator>D-day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to make WIFI free, Like put signals on towers and stuff.</description>
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		<title>By: Roaming The Web in Cambridge &#171; Venture Skills Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-24035</link>
		<dc:creator>Roaming The Web in Cambridge &#171; Venture Skills Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sadly not all of Cambridge is this enlightened the Cambridge central library struggles with the very existence of the internet forget WiFi the closest thing to a wireless connection is some poor souls unprotected sling box. Which leads on to the other connections the homes and student collection of access points some secure some not, some simply hide their SSID and think no one will ever get in, but even windows users have something like network stumbler at their disposal while Unix users have more command line friendly tools. Is jumping on to these networks legal probably not but Darknet has an interesting discussion on their site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sadly not all of Cambridge is this enlightened the Cambridge central library struggles with the very existence of the internet forget WiFi the closest thing to a wireless connection is some poor souls unprotected sling box. Which leads on to the other connections the homes and student collection of access points some secure some not, some simply hide their SSID and think no one will ever get in, but even windows users have something like network stumbler at their disposal while Unix users have more command line friendly tools. Is jumping on to these networks legal probably not but Darknet has an interesting discussion on their site. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Speedys</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-23384</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just found this blog and was wondering if anyone knew the legal implications of using someone elses connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just found this blog and was wondering if anyone knew the legal implications of using someone elses connection?</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-3202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And.....IF i may point out.....your windows pc comes with factory settings commanding the machine to connect to ANY available network....and if you dont go and change it you connect wether you like it or not.  When i purchased my laptop in London UK, i had NO IDEA what wi-fi was and for the better part of a week i was connecting to networks upon networks and had no clue, until the persistant &quot;wireless connection is now connected&quot; icon in the taskbar brought it to my attention.  i then made it my business to know what wireless networks were available to me and when.  in my home in central london i could access any one of 23 seperate networks from different places in the house (windowsill for this one......stairwell for that one.....kitchen etc..) of which only 7 were encrypted....the other 16 being open and unsecured.  as far as i was concerned, it was parallel to using a &quot;scanner&quot; to pick up police broadcasts or accidentally making phone calls on your neighbors phone account because he and yourself  both have cordless phones that share the same frequency.  As devices become more complex and emit more signals than ever before, you can be sure once they leak into my house, i am claiming them as my own and doing with them as i please.  

So, a word to the wise;  if you love your puppy, be sure you dont send your puppy uninvited to your neighbors house to play unattended....otherwise what ever game your neighbor decides to play with Fido are his business, and youll have no recourse for any damages your puppy may have sustained playing lawn darts nextdoor while not in your care.
oh, and by the way, the same is true for $100 dollar bills, lottery tickets, automobiles and women---IF YOU DONT LOVE IT ENOUGH TO GIVE IT THE PROTECTION IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE, SOMEONE WILL COME ALONG WHO IS WILLING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION AND YOUR &quot;LOVES&quot; WILL BE LOVED BY OTHERS, AND USUALLY IN A WAY THAT WILL NOT PLEASE YOU.

want to keep your things exclusively yours?  then dont unwittingly loan them to COMPLETE strangers;and if you do ,you deserve to lose everything you lose.

For the record, i am back in the united states now and my wireless network is encrypted.  having said that, i would like to mention that i have made 50 copies of my WEP key and distributed them to all my neighbors, just in case they ever need to use it.  no one has even tried yet............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230;..IF i may point out&#8230;..your windows pc comes with factory settings commanding the machine to connect to ANY available network&#8230;.and if you dont go and change it you connect wether you like it or not.  When i purchased my laptop in London UK, i had NO IDEA what wi-fi was and for the better part of a week i was connecting to networks upon networks and had no clue, until the persistant &#8220;wireless connection is now connected&#8221; icon in the taskbar brought it to my attention.  i then made it my business to know what wireless networks were available to me and when.  in my home in central london i could access any one of 23 seperate networks from different places in the house (windowsill for this one&#8230;&#8230;stairwell for that one&#8230;..kitchen etc..) of which only 7 were encrypted&#8230;.the other 16 being open and unsecured.  as far as i was concerned, it was parallel to using a &#8220;scanner&#8221; to pick up police broadcasts or accidentally making phone calls on your neighbors phone account because he and yourself  both have cordless phones that share the same frequency.  As devices become more complex and emit more signals than ever before, you can be sure once they leak into my house, i am claiming them as my own and doing with them as i please.  </p>
<p>So, a word to the wise;  if you love your puppy, be sure you dont send your puppy uninvited to your neighbors house to play unattended&#8230;.otherwise what ever game your neighbor decides to play with Fido are his business, and youll have no recourse for any damages your puppy may have sustained playing lawn darts nextdoor while not in your care.<br />
oh, and by the way, the same is true for $100 dollar bills, lottery tickets, automobiles and women&#8212;IF YOU DONT LOVE IT ENOUGH TO GIVE IT THE PROTECTION IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE, SOMEONE WILL COME ALONG WHO IS WILLING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION AND YOUR &#8220;LOVES&#8221; WILL BE LOVED BY OTHERS, AND USUALLY IN A WAY THAT WILL NOT PLEASE YOU.</p>
<p>want to keep your things exclusively yours?  then dont unwittingly loan them to COMPLETE strangers;and if you do ,you deserve to lose everything you lose.</p>
<p>For the record, i am back in the united states now and my wireless network is encrypted.  having said that, i would like to mention that i have made 50 copies of my WEP key and distributed them to all my neighbors, just in case they ever need to use it.  no one has even tried yet&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymity - Hiding Your Identity in 2006 &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/jacking-wifi-is-ok-say-ethics-expert/#comment-1191</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymity - Hiding Your Identity in 2006 &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 06:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still the best way is switching your MAC address and jacking an open Wireless Network, which ethics experts say is ok. [...]</description>
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